AVIATION ORDIANCEMAN
FIRST CLASS FRED MOORE
U. S. NAVY

San Diego. CA Boot Camp
AWARDS EARNED
Air Medal, Meritorious Unit Commendation, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (Taiwan), Armed ForcesExpeditionary Medal (Cuba, Armed Forced Expeditionary Medal (Laos), Viet Nam (Campaign Medal Device (60 - ) Vietnam Service Medal with one Bronze Star, Good Conduct Medal (4), National Defense Service Medal.

Duct Medal (4), National Defense Service Medal.

Pictured below is
Charles Whitfield, Fred Moore, and Richard Gandy
In the front is Clifford "Spot" Taylor
S.E.R.E. SCHOOL
For anyone who doesn't know, Sere School is what the navy calls their
Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape training. Usually, people were
sent to Sere School just before they were scheduled to be sent to Viet Nam.
In my case I was just starting a two year tour of shore duty, and was
looking forward to it. This was during my flight crew phase of the navy and
when on shore duty, there wasn't any of the long 12 hour flights, that
always seemed to come at or after midnight. They were mostly local flights
of no more than 4 hours total flight time duration. When I got orders to
Sere School, I checked to make sure I hadn't received other orders, because
no one went to Sere School while on shore duty. It may have been because I
had been stationed at Brunswick, Maine for 4 years just prior to this.
Brunswick had their own Sere School not too far from the base, and my crew
had gone while I was on emergency leave. So maybe someone thought that I
had cooked up a way to miss Sere School and decided to surprise me and send
me while on shore duty. Anyway there were about 35 guys in my class, and we
had two days of classroom training before we went into the field. Before I
left San Diego, I had been briefed by a guy who had just returned from the
school, who told me everything one should know before embarking to Sere
School. Some useful info and some not so useful. Anyway, armed with all
of his info, I felt pretty confident about my impending trials. We were
told if we hadn't been captured within a certain period, that we would hear
horns, sirens etc., and when we did, to come in because that would be the
end of the evasion phase.
The guy who had briefed me had told me the best way to evade was to find
a good thick area and lay down in the middle of it, then I could hear and
probably see the enemy as they walked past me. I found a perfect place with
briars throughout it and trees that one couldn't see through, so I crawled
into the middle of the briar patch and lay there waiting. Not long after, I
heard someone talking as they approached and passed me. Then I heard others
and saw one or two pass by. After not hearing anyone for what seemed like
an hour, but in reality, was probably 10 or 15 minutes, I cautiously arose
from my concealed position, and stayed in the patch for a while, looking and
listening for voices or walking noises. Finally I started my trek through
the woods, moving very carefully and slowly from tree to tree. Finally, I
decided that everyone had passed through my area, and just about that time I
heard car horns honking and sirens sirening and started looking for someone
to surrender to. After a short time, I saw people ahead and walked in their
direction. I was given the number 33 signafying the order of my capture,
meaning there were only 2 more people in the woods, who hadn't been
captured. I was told to get on the ground, which I did, then was brutally
grabbed and stood on my feet. I had a smile on my face, and the guy said,
"We'll wipe that smile off your face," then pushed me ahead of him with a
couple other guys and took us to the P.O.W. Camp which was very close by.
Upon arriving, we were introduced to the reason for this email. Water
Boarding, which they called the Chinese Water Torture. I was put down on my
stomach and a limb or board, I don't remember which, was run under my arms.
Then I was turned over and was laying on my back, at which time a T-shirt
was thrown over my face. Then someone sat on my chest and began pouring
water over the T-shirt, giving me the impression that I was drowning. Never
having drowned before, I wasn't sure if I was actually drowning or not, but
obviously I wasn't because I am writing this email.
We were told at the de-briefing that it would be hard to drown anyone
with the Chinese Water Torture. The instructor said, "All you have to do is
drink the water." Now the media is making a big deal out of water boarding
which everyone who was in the navy with me had it done to them by our own
people. And if anyone could have drowned from it, they would have. That's
Murphy's law. So if that is the only torture they used on the terrorists
they weren't tortured at all in my opinion.
By the way, the advice I received from my friend was pretty good, because
the water boarding was all I had to go through. I know it was because I was
no. 33, because most of those in my class really got worked over. The
instructors went through that course everyday all summer and if one could
evade them, they could evade anyone in a jungle.
Narley Stryder